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24. SUMMARY . list of universes 19. THE CONFLICTS (or MEST) UNIVERSE

Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2014 08:00:03 +0100

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from the Pilot's Cosmic History (part of Super Scio).
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24.SUMMARY

Here is a brief list of the universes:

A. Separation from static
B. Jewel of Knowledge

1. Creation period
2. The Mis-aligned spaces
3. The Agreements Universe
4. Home Universe
5. Games Universe
6. Motion Universe
7. Symbols Universe
8. Thought Universe
9. Conflicts Universe
10. Magic Universe
11. Current Universe
12. Mud Universe.

It is quite possible that I have gotten some of the details wrong. For example, it wouldn't surprise me if it turned out that Giliead was in the Magic Universe instead of the Conflicts Universe. And I have intentionally avoided mentioning things which are still highly speculative. So do not take this literal mindedly or assume that it is complete. It is the barest sketch of a framework and further research is needed.

Some of you may think that I have an overly active imagination. In that case I invite you to enjoy the above as an entertaining piece of fiction. I do hope that you will begin to research your past existence and attempt to determine who and what we are. I do not insist that you find the same answers that I did.

Take this roadmap and use it as a suggestion for things to look at. Don't simply swallow it as a matter of faith. Wrong ideas are not harmful unless you blindly insist that they are correct, otherwise you would simply have a good laugh.


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19.THE CONFLICTS (or MEST) UNIVERSE

After the collapse, there is a long time period of living in the resulting "MEST" universe. The goal of this universe was to gain bodily experience and sensation. The environment is mostly flat worlds in space (continents in the sky). The wars had been so extreme that we feared to build a lower prison universe for fear of starting the whole mess over again.

Again there is a long and interesting creative period building societies and civilizations. But as always, there was an undue amount of conflict and people wouldn't leave each other alone. Some people just wanted make slaves of their fellow man. Others were trying to make everybody good. But in either case, the effort was to make people obey and walk in straight lines and the counter effort was to have revolutions etc. And anyone who tried to step aside from this and "cure" the insanity was stupid enough (thanks to the misleading information in the jewel of knowledge) to try to do it by implanting even more conditioning, which only made matters worse.

Since bodies were of tremendous importance, but the person carried on in an energy form even after the body died, it was possible to push someone into a body, kill it off, and then pull him out, push him into another body, and then kill that one too. So the predominant form of conditioning used here consisted of repetitive deaths and heavy pains and sensations. Here the person can be mauled around by force and it is used either to make slaves or to force people to be good depending on which team you were playing on. Here you might suffer endless car crashes or be thrown out of the door of an aircraft and go splat on the ground over and over again while they try to lay in various stupid orders and conditioning.

Near the end, a group formed that was going to take care of everybody once and for all. It would bring about peace by holding everybody under its sway and it would solve the social problems by having a rigid social structure. This was the "Magic Kingdom of Gilead" (approximate translation). It had the innocuous appearance of a castle beside a lake on one of the continents drifting around in the sky. But they had salvaged some of the higher dimensional technology from earlier universes and internally this castle went on infinitely with the 3 dimensional corridors curving off slightly at 4 dimensional angles so that the castle was quite capable of housing the entire population of the universe.

Giliead was set up as a "pyramid" society where new recruits came in as servants and everyone else bumped up a level in the social hierarchy when enough people came in to fill the lower strata. In other words, social status and privileges were based on how early you joined the society and when it began to look like they were going to take over all of civilization, there was a tremendous influx of recruits who were quite willing to work temporarily as servants with the expectation that they would be overseers later as the rest of the population joined. But of course this tapered off when the remaining people saw that they would be forever stuck in the lower positions. And so the Knights of Giliead (armed with energy weapons and riding flying horses) set out to conquer the remaining peoples of the universe.

This pattern of a stratified pyramidal society trying to take over the universe and make slaves out of the majority of people has been followed frequently. Our modern day Hitlers are but the tiniest shadow of these super organized societies that live by continual expansion and enslavement. But they inevitably collapse when their expansion is blocked either by running out of new people or by a determined military resistance. The three really big ones were Alpha Prime in the Symbols Universe, Giliead as discussed here, and Arslycus in the current universe. All of them had populations in the trillions and their collapse always has a bit of the feeling of the collapse of home universe even though none of them were really nice places for anyone who wasn't at the top of the heap.

Eventually, around 200 trillion years ago, we did build a lower prison universe. This was probably done to provide a fitting place to dump the rulers of Giliead after its collapse.

But we still had a great deal of worry about a prison breakout triggering something like the Theta-MEST wars again. So this time, the prison was intentionally made a fairly nice place so the prisoners would stay there. The transfer implant used a volcano on a flat earth copy of the original earth. A path lined with statues of the penalty universe terminals (the tiger, the bear, etc.) lead up to the peak where one was tossed in and went on down to the prison universe.

People were weary of the constant conflicts, so around 181 trillion years ago, there began a wave of mass suicides where everyone threw themselves into the volcano to "die" as beings and be reborn in the next lower universe.

Eventually this next prison universe came to be known as the Magic Universe.

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Have an imaginative weekend,
Love,
Ant

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From: Ant Phillips
Subject: Re: [CosmicHistory] Cosmic History 3

Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2014 15:13:29 +0100

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At 08:00 15-03-2014, Ant Phillips repeated the following from The Pilot 19. THE CONFLICTS (or MEST) UNIVERSE:

... (a lot omitted)

Eventually, around 200 trillion years ago,we did build a lower prison universe. This was probably done to provide a fitting place to dump the rulers of Giliead after its collapse.

But we still had a great deal of worry about a prison breakout triggering something like the Theta-MEST wars again. So this time, the prison was intentionally made a fairly nice place so the prisoners would stay there.

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Isn't this very superficial?

" we did build a "  ...   Who are "we"?  Does "we" include "the rulers of Giliead "? How do you "build a universe"?

All best wishes,

Ant
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Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2014 08:25:16 -0700 (PDT)

From: Roland Aldridge
Subject: Re: [CosmicHistory] Cosmic History 3
To: Ant Phillips

Also it sums up eons of history in a few paragraphs, in proportion about the same as saying "humans expanded in numbers on Earth over a period of a million years or so."
I'm struck by how the description of Gilead sounds more like a drug or fever-induced dream.
 
Roland Aldridge


On Sunday, March 16, 2014 7:13 AM, Ant Phillips wrote:
At 08:00 15-03-2014, Ant Phillips repeated the following from The Pilot 19.THE CONFLICTS (or MEST) UNIVERSE:

... (a lot omitted)

Eventually, around 200 trillion years ago, we did build a lower prison universe. This w
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To: Roland Aldridge
From: Ant Phillips
Subject: Re: [CosmicHistory] Cosmic History 3
At 16:25 16-03-2014, Roland Aldridge wrote:

Also it sums up eons of history in a few paragraphs, in proportion about the same as saying "humans expanded in numbers on Earth over a period of a million years or so."
I'm struck by how the description of Gilead sounds more like a drug or fever-induced dream.

Roland Aldridge


Very true.  I also have the hunch that it sums up the less important parts.

"drug or fever-induced dream" might well be things that happened :-) .

For what it is worth, when I first heard of Arslycus it sort of rang a bell, and in auditing later I came up with (a) the impression that I had been involved in the early Arslycus days in recruiting, and (b) years later the impression that I had later been a "slave". But I think it a doubtful practice to "write" our history from auditing experiences, even though that is the fashionable thing to do in Scientology and postScientology.

All best wishes,

Ant



Subject: Re: [CosmicHistory] Cosmic History 3
Date: 2014-03-18 22:40
From: Scott Gordon
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Ant wrote: "But I think it a doubtful practice to "write" our history from auditing experiences, even though that is the fashionable thing to do in Scientology and postScientology."


I very much agree with this, and as long is it isn't presented or taken too seriously, I do like to hear other's stories of the time-track and experiences discovered in sessions.

One has to be careful to experience their own reality as much as possible, but I have found oddly enough, that it is still therapeutic to a greater or lesser degree, to go looking for incidents "right out of the book" or in this case, out of someone's cosmic history.

I just beware of doing only that, without also running what comes up with no other prompting, and checking into my own reality.

By raising one's willingness to "experience anything," I think one gets more genuine, personal track - which seems even more therapeutic.

Scott Gordon
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Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2014 11:32:38 -0700 (PDT)

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I agree with this observation [From: Scott Gordon ].  In fact I think it is very useful for people on OT levels to exchange notes about what they find - it can open the door to all kinds of stuff one hadn't thought of before.  I think this is so particularly on Solo NOTs.  Of course I am assuming that the people concerned are able to go ahead and audit anything that comes up!  If you are having trouble it might not be such a good idea.

It is an open question whether it is actually useful to do the OT levels or not.  For some it no doubt is, but for others, I don't see it.  I also am not convinced that just doing the bridge is the best approach - doing what is real to the person and handling the stuff he's concerned with seems more to the point.

Roland Aldridge
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Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2014 10:35:58 +0100
From: Ant Phillips
Subject: Re: [CosmicHistory] Fwd: Re:  Cosmic History 3

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Thanks for all the recent messages.

These messages will be available for anybody to look at (I have not received any requests to leave out name/emailaddress)-  At the moment athttps://www.dropbox.com/sh/4ivdz2o592s4vd5/fJ5cRbJpx2  and later at www.cosmichistory.info.

I have wondered what people who are not Scientogists will think  - people attracted by the title Cosmic History who find the list full of "case" mumbo-jumbo Scientologese.

Just looking at this planet's history, people wondering how sex came about in "higher" life organisms, or the secret  ( :-) ) behind DNA and chromosomes.  I am not saying it is a bad thing to handle ones case - I get two or three sessions a week, and am very happy about it -  but I did not get the "datum" ("revelation") which seemed to clear a major deal of the "mystery" up for me from digging into case.  (We will come to that later  - it does depend (for me) a great deal on the Pilot's work a lot of which we have not looked at in this time round.)

So I wish you good progress handling your case,   (if you have one).

All best wishes,

Ant
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Subject: [CosmicHistory] Cosmic History: Errors in time...

Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2014 16:32:30 +0100

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My first response...

1. Scott Gordon wrote:
Ant wrote: "But I think it a doubtful practice to "write" our history
from auditing experiences, even though that is the fashionable thing to
do in Scientology and postScientology."

I very much agree with this, and as long is it isn't presented or taken
too seriously, I do like to hear other's stories of the time-track and
experiences discovered in sessions.

- Indeed, it is a very doubtful practice, because...we have been tricked on our time track. Anyone knows about tapes like 'Errors in Time'? See, we HAVE been tricked. I have seen OT III, however what I have gotten from it, is not at all what other person's have envisioned. It is very different! One thing is auditing, another is being properly educated, and with that I don't mean auditor training, no, I mean really understanding that very past track.

2.Roland Aldridge wrote:
Also it sums up eons of history in a few paragraphs, in proportion about the same as saying "humans expanded in numbers on Earth over a period of a million years or so.

- Well, how would you know that? Remember, errors in time...  I don't perceive there are millions of years on this, not the universe either. Time is a trick. How can we verify any of that? Well, use earthly science, find out why so many people have taken the evolution theory as their paradigm. LRH talks about Darwinian implant.

Roadrunner

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